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Below is a series of images of flags that have been provided to FOTW; some we have recognized, and some we have been unable to recognize. If you can help us identify any of these flags, please let us know! Contact the: UFE Editor.

Identification Key:

= Positive ID (Positive Identification)
= Tentative ID (Tentative Identification)
= Some Speculation

Unidentified Flags on Page 1:

  1. French Saint Martin UFE
  2. UFE Seen In Music Video
  3. US Protest Flags in Oregon
  4. Kosovar Protest Flag (Kosovo)
  5. UFE at Western Samoa Independence Ceremony
  6. Unknown Shipping Line Flag
  7. Unknown Flag on RV
  8. Unusual flag spotted in London
  9. Russlanddeutsche Flagge
  10. Strange Hungarian Flags
  11. Unidentified World War II Era Flag
  12. Unknown Shiite Militia Flag
  13. Panamanian Political flag
  14. Greek UFE 1949
  15. Unidentified Flags on Tea Cup
  16. Egyptian Sultanic Standard?
  17. US Minuteman flag with Three Stars

Unidentified Flags on this Page:

  1. Flag Has Me Puzzled
  2. Mystery US Flag Seen In 1906 Photo
  3. ISIS Flags with Unknown Words
  4. Kaesong UFE
  5. Possible UK Commercial Flag
  6. Korean UFE
  7. Unidentified Airline Flag
  8. Meaning of Yellow and Black American Flag?
  9. Question About a Flag
  10. Unknown Yacht Club Pennant
  11. Flag on Button
  12. Three Unknown French Polynesian Flags
  13. Unknown Kagyu flag in Amsterdam
  14. Unknown ISJK (ISIS) Flag
  15. Unknown Hamas Flag (ISIS)
  16. Unknown Muslim Flag (Iran?)

Unidentified Flags on Page 3:

  1. Mongolian UFE #1
  2. Mongolian UFE #2
  3. Flag with Claw and Royal Crest Crown
  4. Possible Commercial Flag (Pichidangui, Chile)
  5. German shipping company?
  6. Two Japanese Made Flags
  7. Unknown German Flag Variant 1933-35
  8. Unknown Basque Flag (ES)
  9. Unknown Flag from World War II- Guadalcanal
  10. Japanese Naval Flag
  11. Incorrect Soviet Union flag variant
  12. Singapore - Military UFEs
  13. Royal flag of Syria 1920?
  14. Flag at Black Lives Matter Protest.
          

Unidentified Flags on Page 4:

  1. Red Flag with Shahada
  2. Unknown Old Californian Bear Flag
  3. Unrecognized C, R&N, C Flag
  4. Eagle Flag (US)
  5. Unknown German POW Flag
  6. Mexican UFE
  7. UFE Yellow-White-Yellow
  8. Possible Commissioning Pennant
  9. Unknown Pennant Identification
  10. Golden Dragon on Black Flag
  11. New flag for Syrian Kurds?

Unidentified Flags on Page 5:

  1. Strange Flags at Hockey World Cup
  2. Possible HM Customs and Revenues Pennant
  3. Belgian flag with Lion
  4. Gold Eagle on Black Flag
  5. This old flag - American?
  6. Germanic Odinist Irminsul Banner
  7. Unknown Flag Cap Badges
  8. Unknown neo-Nazi flag at Demonstration
  9. Possibly 2nd Troop, Philadelphia City Cavalry? (US)>
  10. Unknown Polish European Union Flag?

Unidentified Flags on other pages:


16-18. Flag Has Me Puzzled Some Speculation

Image from Kamil Salus, 22 March 2016

I have been researching this flag...and have no clue what the origin of it is or what it means. I've been following your website for a long while and coming to you as an authority on flags. Can you please help me figure out what this flag is all about?
Kamil Salus, 22 March 2016

This flag was seen in Mystic, Connecticut.
Rob Raeside, 23 March 2016

This could be a coincidence, but five Turks were killed in a suicide bombing in Istanbul today... could it be some kind of Turkish mourning flag?
James Dignan, 23 March 2016

I'll caveat this up front by saying that I don't have a definite answer on this ID, only additional speculation.
1) Could this object be less of a flag and perhaps more like a banner, maybe even advertising something? The general shape of it, as well as the way it seems to be attached to the window frame at the four corners looks more like some sort of commercial banner rather than a folded flag.
2) Could the design on the object be less inspired by national symbols and perhaps more indicative of symbols from numerology, astrology, tarot, or other forms of fortune-telling? The more I look at the symbols and try to find some sort of connection between the crescent and star, the arrow, the nine smaller stars in a specific configuration, and the numeral "5" the more I keep coming back to numerology and astrology as the one common factor between them.
As I said, I really just have more speculation and questions than I do answers, but I wanted to put it out there for what it's worth. Thanks for humoring me!
Randy Young, 24 March 2016

Looks nothing like any astrological symbols I've ever seen or worked with - and certainly not Tarot related. It's possible, but I'd say highly unlikely.
James Dignan, 25 March 2016

The more I think about this flag, the more I think the combination of number, symbol (arrow), and star and crescent indicates some military unit. There is a Pakistani Air Force squadron called the Arrows, but unfortunately they're the 11th squadron, not the 5th. It could be a squadron of some middle-eastern air force, though, or something similar.
James Dignan, 25 March 2016

Could it be something like a Shriner's chapter flag? Another thought that occurs is that the arrow is just that: an arrow that point toward something and used as such.
Marc Pasquin, 27 March 2016

Kamil, when originally reported, it was mentioned that this flag was spotted in the Chicago area hung outside a residential building. Do we know the area code, neighborhood, County, or any other further references so we can improve our search? Any details are greatly appreciated.
Esteban Rivera, 9 November 2020


16-19. Mystery US Flag Seen In 1906 Photo Positive ID

Image from Jim Loos, 23 March 2016

I have a mystery flag in a photo that I know was taken in the summer of 1906. At this date the United States had 45 states in the union, but the flag hanging in the background has a star field arranged in a 6 x 8 rectangular pattern. Unfortunately, 7 of the 48 star positions are hidden by a person's head in the foreground. However, the pattern I see is different from the oddball examples of 45-star flags shown on your site, so I am curious whether this could in fact be a 45-star flag, or if perhaps some flag manufacturers jumped the gun and issued a 48-star flag several years before Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arizona were admitted.
Jim Loos, 23 March 2016

Were 48-star flags available as early as 1906? This predates even the introduction of the 46-star flag. Our page shows variant designs for the 45 star flag, but not this one.
Rob Raeside, 23 March 2016

I oldest dated 48-star flag I have ever seen was dated 1898, so the answer is yes, flags were made in anticipation of statehood long before it was fact.
Jim Ferrigan, 24 March 2016

Image from Jim Loos, 25 March 2016

Given the information from Jim Ferrigan that 48-star flags appeared as early as 1898, I made a search of old newspapers available at the Library of Congress site. I found several references to 48-star flags in 1898, one of them is attached (from Butler Citizen, Butler PA, June 30. 1898). Additional mentions of 48-star flags are made in various newspapers through the years prior to 1912, so it is indeed clear that some flag manufacturers made the flag that way, either to celebrate the new territories gained in the Spanish-American War, or to anticipate the statehood of Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arizona.
Jim Loos, 25 March 2016


16-20. ISIS Flags with Unknown Words Some Speculation

Image from William Garrison, 28 March 2016

Hopefully you can view the attached jpg. It shows (I believe) three flags of ISIS. The one in the top right seems similar to an ISIS flag, but there appears to be 2 lines near the top of the flag. It may be an ISIS sub-unit flag. My poor eyesight can't read the Arabic.
Source: FP (Foreign Policy) Magazine website; The Middle East Daily, March 28, 2016.
William Garrison, 28 March 2016

Note: I have reduced the image (used above), but retained the area of the image Bill refers to at original size, clipped and pasted in the lower right corner.
Rob Raeside, 28 March 2016

I can't even see three flags. Can we get them indexed, so we know what we're talking about?
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 9 April 2016

Image modified by Pete Loeser, 22 April 2016
[Click image to enlarge]

Sure. At first I thought I'd found what may have been a fourth flag that I marked as "D" but on closer examination discovered that what I marked "C" is an enlargement inserted by Rob. So A, B, and D are the three apparent flags mentioned by William Garrison. "C" is merely an insert and not part of the picture.
Pete Loeser, 22 April 2016

Erm, do we all agree that this is a cloth on a frame, that most of the top dexter is missing, and that the top sinister folding over, obscuring part of the cloth and showing its own writing in reverse, in colours that strongly suggest the cloth was not meant as a flag?
Whether anything depicted on it also appears as a real flag is a different avenue of research, and I who can't read what it all says am not the right person to go there.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 24 April 2016

I have to say the following: I totally agree with what Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg wrote on April 24, 2016: "...suggest the cloth was not meant as a flag". To me it is just a representation of a real Isis flag and the picture we have is not a proper flag at all. Also, this UFE should be included in our section "Militias and Militant Groups".
Esteban Rivera, 21 May 2015


16-21. Kaesong UFE Positive ID

This flag has been identified as the flag of Hyundai Asan Company.


16-22. Possible UK Commercial Flag Positive ID

This has been identified as a flag of a British and Irish trade union known as Unite.

16-23. Korean UFE Positive ID

This flag has been identified as the Korean Safety Flag.


16-24. Unidentified Airline Flag Some Speculation

Frankfurt Airport photo 1961   Detail of UFE #24 on middle pole
Images from Miles Li, 19 April 2016

Attached is a photo, taken at Frankfurt Airport in the then West Germany, some time between 1958 and 1961. It shows, between the flags of KLM and Pan Am, an unidentified airline flag, featuring a white arrowhead symbol on a red globe on a dark blue field. The emblem resembled the cap badges worn by Trans World Airlines flight crews; however as TWA rarely used blue on its liveries, there are doubts as to the actual identity of the flag.
Source: Postcards of the Lockheed Constellation aircraft.
Miles Li, 19 April 2016

After looking at the picture you sent one can see that the aircraft on the foreground is indeed a TWA one, so it is indeed in the TWA terminal of the Frankfurt Airport, which lead us to think that this was the TWA flag. Here's a bigger (picture #1) (source #1) (picture #2) (source #2) [in this last URL it mentions that the postcard was issued 1961 and shows a personal message sent back then, and you can also use a zooming tool in the picture]. The postcard was produced by Krüger.

image located by Esteban Rivera, 19 April 2016
      TWA Pilots Pin

As you mentioned, the symbol on the flag in the middle looks like the cap badge worn by TWA pilots in the early 1960's as in (this image) (source) suggests. The same postcard appears on the following sites as well:

  1. Alternate web source #1
  2. Alternate web source #2
  3. Alternate web source #3
  4. Alternate web source #4

image located by Esteban Rivera, 19 April 2016
           Frankfurt Airport photo 1959

Also, on a related link of the same site you provided, there's an (image) (source) showing a set of three flags:
  1. UFE - The above unidentified flag on first
  2. IAL - possibly the flag of El Al. Notice that we have a description of a flag by Nathan Lamm on June 1, 2003, but no graphic. I did find a flag (source) as well as these two (image #1) and (image #2). Here's the logo and it's flag evolution.
  3. BEA - Shown on FOTW here. Notice that the flag we have has a font type different from the picture of the flag, and also the CoA featured on the flag we have is very different from the reported CoA (source). This website shows the same picture as the above mentioned postcard, but is dated 1959.
Esteban Rivera, 19 April 2016

   
Images from Randy Young, 19 April 2016

These are the current and previous flags of El Al, respectively, turning the graphics that Esteban linked from Wikipedia into FOTW-standard graphics.
Meanwhile, I don't think that the 2nd flag in the photo at is El Al. The characters on the flag don't appear to me to be "IAL,"" as the "L" would be turned backwards, "facing" the hoist. That said, it leaves me more confused than ever as to what the symbols/characters in the white stripe could be.
Randy Young, 19 April 2016

My idea is that this flag is of the British BOAC.
Jens Pattke, 19 April 2016

Image from Miles Li, 5 January 2021
LAI pennant as depicted on posters and luggage labels

Image from Miles Li, 5 January 2021
LAI flag as flown in Frankfurt Airport

Esteban commented above on the set of three flags which he identified as:

  1. UFE - unidentified flag
  2. IAL - possibly the flag of El Al...
  3. BEA...
Flag 2 is not that of El Al, but that of the Linee Aeree Italiane (Italian Airlines), founded in 1946 and merged with Alitalia in 1957.
It is attached here, along with the rectangular version.
Miles Li, 5 January 2021


16-25. Meaning of Yellow and Black American Flag? Some Speculation

  
Speculative Image by Pete Loeser, 30 April 2016

In Louisiana, south of New Orleans, today I saw in a rural yard a regular American flag and one rendered in black and yellow... there are places to buy this on line (cap or patch, air freshener, etc.) but no explanation of it... does anyone know what this flag means?
milopyne, 30 March 2016

Seems to be just artwork, without meaning. See electrosky.
Al Kirsch, 6 April 2016

Just a wild thought on this flag: there's a song called "Black and yellow" by American rapper Wiz Khalifa. In the music video of the song, he appears wearing a hat with the Pittsburgh Pirates logo which, by the way, is a capital "P" letter in yellow, with a black background. Also, in the lyrics, he mentions the following: "Black stripe, yellow paint..." which may be a reference to African Americans (represented by the black color) in the stripes, as well as the yellow which, in the song, represents gold, money and diamonds.
I'd classify this flag as another Fictional flag similar to the USA national flag.
Esteban Rivera, 10 May 2016

Just found another explanation for the colors: "The song is a reference to the colors of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and their NFL team, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Khalifa has stated that he bought a car in those colors because of his allegiance to Pittsburgh and the Steelers. The music video for the song made the connection to Pittsburgh explicit, showing various iconic locations in the city."
Source: Black and Yellow.
Esteban Rivera, 10 May 2016

Image by Pete Loeser, 25 June 2016

The same manufacturer who is selling the Yellow and Black American Flag is now also offering a "retro" version in red, black and yellow. While the yellow and black version has been seen as a physical flag, this red/black/yellow version has thus far only appeared on T-Shirts, serving trays, luggage tags, etc. The meaning of these flags still remains a mystery, other than a way to make some bucks. It will be interesting to see if some group re-purposes these flags and gives them a new meaning other than a way to generate income.
Pete Loeser, 25 June 2016

Looking for a meaning of the Yellow and Black American Flag, it possibly is most likely going to be a flag supporting the New Orleans Saints, another National Football League club. The colors are black and gold (a darker gold, mind you) and avoided the use of the Saints logo due to possible trademark issues. Another thought is that the gold/black combination is used by Vets or by those in the field of Security or Loss Prevention (the prevention of theft in a business).
Zachary Harden, 10 December 2016


16-26. Question About a Flag

Image from Robert Goldman,

     Last 4th of July a replica of the Hermione, the ship that Lafayette sailed on his second voyage to America in 1780, was docked at the South Street Seaport on the East River in New York City. I was fascinated by the large flag it was flying. When I inquired I was told that it was a Revolutionary War Era Naval Battle Flag.
     The exact flag is not illustrated on the FOTW website, although there are a couple of flags with similar characteristics. This flag had staggered stars of 4, 5 and 4 with 5 red stripes, 4 white stripes and 4 blue stripes. I had never seen a flag with red, white and blue stripes before. It was thrilling to see the ship, it's cannon and the flags it was flying, especially with the Brooklyn Bridge in the background. I was wondering if you knew about this flag and its history. Perhaps it is just an inaccurate replica.
     I did look at the Serapis Flag and noticed it to be similar to the flag I saw except for the stripe pattern. So I can presume it's a variation of the the Serapis Flag, [...or perhaps even the Arthur Lee Flag]? I couldn't find it.
Robert Goldman, 30 April 2016


16-27. Unknown Yacht Club Pennant Positive ID

Photo from V. Akopyan, 1 May 2016

I am wondering if you can give me any information about this banner I found. It is a three color triangle banner with a star. I could not find the name of company who made it. An attached tag says "Spiegel Novelty Co. Inc. FLAGS BANNERS 103 Nassau St., N.Y.C."
V. Akopyan, 1 May 2016

This is almost certainly a US yacht club flag, but I don't think it is one that we have included in our website yet.
Rob Raeside, 1 May 2016

     Can we can get information on the banner V.A. found. Did V.A. find this one hidden in the attic of a derelict house? Or is there provenance that might tells us more of when this was made?
     A better description could be: "A triangular burgee with a red hoist and a black fly separated by a narrow flyward white chevron, the red carrying a five-pointed white star with one point pointing down"? Is there a reason not to assume that the flag is upside down with the star normally pointing up?
     Strange, as the design elements all seem rather start of last century, so you'd expect it to have been documented somewhere. Even stranger, as their toy shop next door even made it into LIFE magazine (in an ad for Mattel toys). Let's see:
     * A Spiegel Novelty Company was incorporated 30 January 1947, and still exists, though now a LLC, currently under one Irnest Spiegel, though not at the right address.
     * Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Nov 22, 1979 has a "William Spiegel, president of Spiegel Novelty, a New York flag dealer".
     * Billboard 1920 has Spiegel Novelty Co. at 11 Ann Street, New York.
Assuming all these are the same company, we're looking at a pre-1947 flag, as Spiegel Novelty was not yet incorporated.
     In the lighting of that photograph the fly seems black. However, a dark blue also often shows up black in a picture. If that were the case here, the burgee might be that of the Bently Yacht Club. A Lloyds Register of American Yachts from the teens of the 20th century would probably show it. And in this case the flag is upside down.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 1 May 2016


Image by Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 2 May 2016

     The Bently Yacht Club burgee still exists, except that its name is spelt "Bentley Yacht Club". I don't know whether that's a problem with Lloyds, or whether a name change occurred at some point.
     The Bentley Yacht Club was created as a mooring club, like so many other clubs are as well. The essence of such a club is to provide the local community with space for their boats, and for the boats' owners to gather. Quite a few such clubs after a while stress racing more, attract wealthier members because of that, adapt to these changes, and often explode when those wealthier members don't come any more. The BYC apparently has stuck to its purpose ever since they were incorporated in 1909, providing its services to Tottenville, Staten Island, New York for more than a century!
     I've tried to draw a burgee that holds a middle ground between what Lloyds has, and what's visible in recent pictures, e.g. in the raising of a burgee: A triangular burgee, 2:3, with an old glory red hoist and an old glory blue fly, separated with a narrow flyward white chevron, the hoist bearing a white star with one point pointing upward. (I picked the Old Glory shades as the actual flags are obviously too dark to be middle blue, even if the members' clothes do show the burgee in that shade.
     Especially the size of the star is a compromise, as the current images seem to show a smaller star than Lloyd's did. It's quite likely that Lloyds was wrong, though, as they didn't have much room for subtleties.
     I hope that if that's the case, the people of the BYC will be able to provide the original wording for the burgee, and/or a good image to use as an example for an improved drawing. For now, this is what I can do: I hope it's at least recognizable.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 2 May 2016


16-28. Flag on Button Some Speculation

Image from Pete Loeser, 7 May 2016

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/y/yu~1950.gif

We received an unsigned inquiry with only the following text: "A lapel button, no back, so not even a manufacturer." Apparently the button has a French Flag with a gold star on it, surrounded by 12 gold stars. Perhaps the button was part of an uniform, military, merchant marine, etc.? Any ideas?
Pete Loeser, 7 May 2016

Image by Željko Heimer, 25 October 2003
Flag of Yugoslavia

I suspect the button is sideways and we are looking at a variant of the old flag of Yugoslavia with the European Economic Community ring of stars. Yugoslavia cooperated intimately with the EEC before the 1990s and much was made of this. There were several attempts to make Yugoslavia a member but this never happened. See: Yugoslavia and the European Economic Community.
Dave Martucci, 27 January 2019

Did anything come from this, Dave Martucci's interpretation of UFE16-28? I wonder if there's a way to make it more certain: E.g. do such buttons have a fixed direction that will allow the owner to determine up? Or are there specialist Yugoslavia button collectors that might help? (Or EEG/EU idem?) If that was a big deal in the EEG, does that make it likely that such a button would have been "museumed" somewhere? And, of course, would this be the only material, or would there be flags, stamps, whatnots?
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 6 May 2020

Image from Pete Loeser, 10 June 2003
Civil Flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (1868-1918)

I love Dave's ability to think outside the box and see connections that other miss. That said, to play devil's advocate, I need to point out that the star on the Yugoslav flag was red, not gold. Now it is true the blue "Flag of Europe" has 12 gold Stars in a circle (also used by the Council of Europe and European Union), but why add a large 13th gold star?
Now lets turn the button the other way, then we have the Civil Flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (1868-1918). The red/white/blue tricolor (trobojnica) has been a state symbol of Croatia for generations, and wasn't Croatia trying to join either the EEC or EU for years? Maybe this button dates back to the time they were trying join (they finally succeeded in 2013), and the large gold star was meant to suggest that.
Any other speculations?
I attached an image of the Civil Flag of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia (1868-1918), the Flag of the Kingdom of Croatia (early 19th Century-1848), and the flag of State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs (1918). It is actually all the same flag and all we'd have to do is add a gold star.
Pete Loeser, 10 June 2020


16-29. Three Unknown French Polynesian Flags Positive IDs

     

These flags have been identified as those of the Leeward Islands (French Polynesia),  Tahaa (French Polynesia), and  Tubuai (Austral Islands, French Polynesia).

16-30. Unknown Kagyu flag in Amsterdam Positive ID

Image from Gabriel Smit, 5 May 2016

Recently I stumbled on a flag that I cannot identify, not even with your library. It seems obvious it is somehow related to Tibet, likely the Kagyu school. I observed the flag in the city of Amsterdam, The Netherlands, here in a bit of public greenery. Nothing in the near vicinity provided me any clues, and web searches are thus far also unsuccessful.
Gabriel Smit, 5 May 2016

Looks somewhat like a police star, doesn't it? I don't know about the script; it doesn't look angled enough to be Tibetan to me.
Curiously, the photograph google maps has for that map location seems to have a flag with a bar along the fly edge, rather than the hoist - not something that happens by accident.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 18 May 2016

Not Tibetan: this is Balinese lettering, namely the om-monograph (Also see). In hindsight, Balinese is a good bet for an UFE sighting in A'dam.
António Martins, 18 May 2016

Congratulations! I was myself checking various Indian-influenced scripts, since it definitely wasn't Tibetan.
Corentin Chamboredon, 18 May 2016

A similar flag was already reported as a Galungan flag (Balinese holiday) used in Indonesia. [but no star]
Esteban Rivera, 18 May 2015

I believe we can label this as a positive ID, only that it (the flag submitted with the star) is another variant of a Galungan flag.
Esteban Rivera, 21 May 2015

It is indeed, and especially so because in both versions the symbol are placed incorrectly, at least from a typographic point of view: The "ᬑᬁ‌ᬵ" symbol should stand upright, roughly resembling the digit "2".
António Martins, 14 June 2016


16-31. Unknown ISJK (ISIS) Flag Positive ID

These have been identified as variants of the IJSK Flag and been moved.


16-32. Unknown Hamas Flag (ISIS) Positive ID

   

These flags have been identified as variants of the Islamic Resistance Movement and moved.


16-33. Unknown Muslim Flag (Iran?) Positive ID

This has been identified as a flag of the Sunni Awakening Movement and moved.


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